next, a "q&a" with nick gillespie. then david cameron with the house of commons. after that, jon huntsman and a campaign rally in florida. >> this week, our guest is nick gillespie. >> and want to read some words back to you. tom-shall , precisely the non entity passes for a wide man in

washington, d.c. >> 9 entity? >> i think so. i read a piece of the league of undistinguished gentleman's. he had a long record of service. does anyone really miss him? in the end, and he was a time passer. he wasn't even a big enough presence for the obama administration for him to fight. i did not mean it as an insult to him or to the senate. even in the world's greatest chamber, these interchangeable. >> in a world where are squashes are limited, the survivors and the the dead appeared >> i think that is true. >> what the declaration is about is how virtually every aspect of our lives we are seeing greater

individualization and personalization. personalization. but is our very identity. in politics, we are still stuck between dr. jekyll and mr. hyde. it is the wolf man versus frankenstein. who is really going to get fired up? these are shorthand for the incredible narrow range of things we actually have for. >> these are all leaders. mitch mcconnell has only been in the senate for 26 years. it feels like a sentry. did you write that? >> i think that will play my coat off their masks welch on that one. we are not trying to make light of politics. politics is important. there are things worth fighting

over. far to the problem we have is that people have tribal loyalties to team blew and team read. -- red. you do not come across chevrolet families. i think with the rise of these leaders, we have seen an evacuation of political identification as a core value. people are still die-hard democrats. they still believe this very much. every survey shows that people have looser identifications with these parties. john boehner is someone who is now operating around. -- is now parading around. my main residency is an ohio. he voted for t.a.r.p. and the

child left behind. these are all massive government programs without justification. he voted for the patriot act. now he is talking about the time to reduce government spending. is not the type of person who bluntly does this. i do not think people think he is a real leader. >> do you know what question everyone wanted to ask you? >> about what time i am leaving. >> the do you always were that black leatherjacket? >> i do not. i almost always wear black. it became a choice. it evolved over time. it simplify life. as a libertarian, i am a big fan of henry david thoreau's life. he talked about values to

simplify your life. dressing and black certainly does that. >> when did you start only wearing black? >> it evolved over time. the point of no return probably was about 15 years ago or 12 years ago. >> how often do people bring it up to you? >> it is a little tiresome. if i had more energy i would probably call you out right now. >> what is the biggest and most important thing about being a libertarian to you? libertarian to you? >> the biggest thing, i mean, at the biggest thing is to live your life. part of the context is that life is too important to spend it on politics. we did not win the cold war industry east germany's of the filing americans would be free to go to more political rallies

cost -- germany it so that finally americans would be free to go the more political rallies. politics is everything versus politics should be a small portion of your life so you can get on with your family, religion, business. you can get on with falling in love and having children. i think the reason i think i evolved into a libertarian was because it made the most sense. it offers a vision in the world in which the things that are most important to us our friends and center as opposed to saying that we have to call a saying that we have to call a another vote where 49% of the population is to tell the others 50% what to wear. >> were you born? >> in brooklyn, new york. >> what year? >> 1963.

a methodist hospital. i was en route kirkland the past weekend. it is phenomenal. -- i was in brooklyn the past weekend. it is phenomenal. brooklyn has been raised from the dead. when i fly over brooklyn, i close my eyes when i go over brooklyn. it feels me with fear and loathing. i am always looking out the window to catch another scene from new jersey. >> your mother used the word tiago -- daigo. >> my mother was born in america. her merit -- the family came over in the early 1900's. they were from italy and ireland.

that usually informs my world view and also my libertarianism. i'll get to that in a second. my mother up in an industrial town, waterbury, connecticut. she grew up in an untying ghetto. she did not speak english until she went to school. it is amazing. i have looked at my grandfather who lion named after. his ship manifesto noted that she was from southern and northern italy. africa begins at the rome they will tell you. his complexion was noted. he was a little bit dusky. he never spoke english. his children and not speak english until they went to grammar school. at the end of my mother's lifetime, not only were italians fully part to the

american fabric, but they were one of the exemplary groups that had assimilated in change american culture. >> how big of a slur is calling an italian -- >> it varies. it is probably worse now. the baseball player who is one of the first huge italian athlete sports stars in baseball, his nickname was da ego. it is a reflection of changing times. a lot of what the book is about is how it is a much better america because we recognize our individuality. there is the hybridization. at the same time, we are much more comfortable.

people are thinking that is exactly right. it is curious as we become more aware with it, these were essex letters that were totally in common use. -- these were in use. >> we talked about the declaration of independence. we also want you to talk about reason.com and reason.tv. let's run through your many television clips and explain this. >> i hope this is not the episode of to catch a predator. >> she has an extensive portfolio and magazine feature. what she does not have is a

state license. >> should he have been forced to go through an extensive licensing process? >> the act in shares the welfare of the consumer in the state of alabama. >> they are moving a propeller to practice good times. you could spend up to a year in jail. >> the public has a right to know when they hire a interior designer that their hiring a qualified professional. >> it is to protect consumers. it is an industry group that lobbies for licensing laws. this suggests that it has important jobs. >> it does brighter colors.

the children are naturally attracted. >> only government certified in terror designers know that children like child sized furniture. imagine what an unlessoned designer might have done? this is 10 ways they save lives. they also push for licensing law. the dino painting prison cells saves lives? in neutralizes aggression. confusing floor patterns and other items installed by unlicensed designers caused 11,000 deaths each year. >> >> what is the genesis of

that? that? they call this the institute for justice. they were looking into licensing laws. this has changed somewhat in florida. florida. it is preferable to have interior design licenses. it is pretty clear. they can. it is in the interest of searching cartels. >> this is a sigh we launch in october 2007. for dickstein we launched in 2007.

-- this was a sign we launched in october 2007. he said it was very flattering. it is what we are trying to do. he said he never realized to is a libertarian until the spirit that makes sense. -- and sell this. that makes sense. he said let's make videos. let's figure out how to turn some of the stories into shore documentary's that grab at the heartstrings. let's use cutting edge technology. >> is he still on the board? >> he is. he appeared last year and a documentary that we did. he had to fix the mistake. cleveland is one of the rusted

out areas of the city. how do you revive it? how do you revive it? >> how did they spend this? >> the overall budget for the reason foundation is about seven or $8 million a year. a third of that, we have they think tank do have a think tank and a magazine. the date each of hold about a third of that. >> were you ever the member of a political party? >> no,. >> did you ever since he would vote a certain way? >> no,. i typically votes on local bond

issues. that is where it is most relevant. this is a policy that will directly affect me in my home town. it is completely unnecessary. we will vote on that. in terms of candidates, it was 84. he did not win. i never voted at any level for that. i just think it is a major party vote. vote. >> eager of them bricklin.

>> i was born and grew up in new jersey. my father was an office manager of a shipping company. >> what about your mother? >> she raised three kids in and went back to work. >> were the other two children? >> i am an older brother and sister. >> were they political? >> not particularly. i do not think she is active in any type of politics. it has been around since 1968. he went around to college. he started sending it home to

me. i started reading it. i started reading it. this makes a lot of sense to me. it was really after i went to grad school. it was a highly politicized environment. >> i went with a master's in english and concentration on creative writing. it was a good experience. it was the beginning of what became known as political correctness. it is difficult to get there any casual conversation about politics being front and center. politics being front and center. kain was not a left winger. i went to the state university at buffalo.

i can remember having conversations with people when the berlin wall fell. it was pretty phenomenal. people were still in bed did in an idea that castro was ok, the soviet union was the equivalent of the united states. was hard. >> he mentioned about cleveland. >> he mentioned about cleveland. we have a bunch of videographers. it is a total of about 10 people. let's watch this. >> they invested hundreds of

millions of taxpayers' dollars in the rock-and-roll hall of fame. >> the city of cleveland is an expert. if you look at the stadiums, the buildings are empty. >> the politicians promise they would stimulate the local economy. on the face of it, this is what they appear to do. >> a baseball game is a football game on the same doinay? >> said there is more action. >> you take the dollar and say they would spend it here as opposed to there.

they know what it is like to lose a beloved team. the price is too steep. >> schools are crumbling. the economy is in terrible shape. >> officials have not learned the lesson. the next three developments silver bullet is a new center that would require hundreds of millions of additional tax dollars. >> take this. >> what year did you do that? >> we released it in 2010. >> how many did you do on cleveland? what impact did it have? >> we did six episodes. you can watch the whole thing as a single video or in the various episodes.

the impact that we had that is interesting is that the city council of cleveland called us up afterward and say if they couldn't had their druthers, they could get invited me. it ended of going about 2.5 hours. in the end, we are hoping to develop more of their relationship with cleveland. relationship with cleveland. >> promoters are successful. >> promoters are successful. >> you heard this.

we cannot be a big city. you get the elected officials to sign off on these things. it could be a light rail system. it is very troubling. this is one of the benefits of the current fiscal crisis. people start realizing that.

they do not know what to do. they do not know what to do. these are rules letter sensible and predictable. they do not change all the time time.d they have a dozen or two zones. they have a dozen or two zones. these are artifacts of the industrial past. how do you do business when you open up and expand it? you have to go to three or four different zoning board meetings. as china's economic growth. >> limit get some quick answers. -- let me get some quick answers. if someone wants to be libertarian, what is your take on the raw board? -- the barack war? >> which one?

>> it was a non sequitur. it was sold as having something to do with fighting global terrorism. saddam was threatening the u.s.. it was a mistake. >> it is a bad idea an incredibly poorly process. >> were you against in the beginning? >> ps. >> afghanistan made sense after 9/11. the taliban -- it makes sense to invade then. that way.t now appear >> what is your take on marijuana? what is to be legal. -- it should be legal. >> abortion laws? >> i am in favor of a woman's right to choose. right to choose. comments. anti-ga

these are not involved in this. we are in control of our bodies. a portio abortion will continue. >> the department of education? >> they came on line in 79 or 80. they have had no clear up that an educational results. this is an arguable if you look at the national assessment of progress. seniors living high school have the same scores they had in the early '70s. that sinn make everybody think about giving up and going home and starting a school.

>> federal money for politicians to run? >> it is quite possibly more disturbing to me than federal money for churches. money for churches. the american experiment to a complete failure appeared >> social security? >> i think social security is a plan that has run its course. i would be in favor. i think there is a tax on the social safety net. i do not expect to collect social security. i would be happy to walk away. let me plan for my own retirement. >> the best we can tell you, you have any of the last 12 years or so.

let's see what happened in the last 11 years or so. view of the editor in chief. it was lower. you have the leather jacket on. maybe the same shirt. the had an open collar shirt. i think this shows up again. here are in 2004. not much has changed. you have the sideburns. >> i love those. how long did you have them? >> that looks like 2005. there is the assured again.

urging the shirt again here -- there is the shirt again. >> do you realize how little you change in 12 years? >> i am just glad that do not -- i am not gain as much weight as i thought i had appeared in one of those, it is on the 21st anniversary of c-span. i was one of the first guests. somebody wrote in. i thought you you were really interesting. you are the only person in that whole special show that showed up and dress like they are going out to watch their car right after the interview. >> back to the book. you call him a big government and affirmative -- government

conservative. what does that mean? >> the idea of national greatness conservatism, they need to give the energy up. the coalition is to indulge in big three projects -- big great projects. they have this funny conservative point of view. max welch is not a a fan of that. >> richard nixon, you call him a colossus of your millennium. >> that is a reference to the illuminatus trilogy. it is it prepared a book of conspiracy theories. it is a statue in honor of nixon.

>> what did you think of it? >> nixon? >> he is a fascinating psychological type. he was an odious personality. in a lot of ways, to column a tragic figure is to offer too much grander to -- grand your -- grandeur to a politician. richard nixon cannot enjoy his victories. he was tormented by what he perceived as his failures. >> bid to exchange rate again >> bid to exchange rate again just eight years to triple the federal debt. -- if it took ronald reagan just eight years to triple the federal debt. >> a lot of libertarians also >> a lot of libertarians also point to rate them -- to reagan.

ronald reagan was not a libertarian. he gave a great interview in 1975 to "reason magazine." he said libertarianism is the heart and soul of the conservative movement. that is the fundamental ginnie -- dna. he could allow people to western movies. ronald reagan was a big government conservative. not only did he increase spending, increased without paying for it. paying for it. he ran his first campaign called the new federalism. key action aggregated power into d.c. in a way that was much

more than jimmy carter. >> you often start with characters that may be senator audience may not know what you are talking about. >> inouye gingrich styled himself as a revolutionary -- newt gingrich's style himself as a revolutionary. he clear this in many ways. he clear this and the 1990's. it was fun to liken people to historical characters. >> here is a video.

>> here is a video. i remember this from the director. this is the former editor. >> businesses intro. this was a movie. -- this was an intro. this was a movie. >> good evening. out of common decency and a court order, i am obliged to warn you that the reason.tv videos are not only terrifying but real. members of the audience to are susceptible to seizures, high blood pressure politically

induced rage should exit their browsers now. children, pregnant women, and as we responsible adults should consult an accountant before watching these videos. you may obtain immediate relief by screaming. do not be embarrassed to open your mouth and let it rip with all you have. remember, you can scream at the right moment and say their country's life and future. critics say that your country's life and future.

theand nick bell u gillespie. gains quickly if you dare. since world war ii, they have damaged 18% of gross domestic product. federal spending has grown more sharply than al gore during a full body massage, rising from 16% in 1950 to almost 26% of gdp this year. spending is expected to be well over 20% of gdp. the federal government balance sheet is a and a whole bigger --

is in a hole bigger. >> we had an incredibly talented crew. we filmed those n n 3d. we sent out glasses and you could watch them on line in 3d. this was last year. >> do you have to go to those great links in order to get people's attention? >> the joke with that was that we were trying to figure out why people were getting the fiscal problems of the country. i suggest it is because it can only see them into the mansion. when they get the third one, it reaches out and grab them. maybe people will be moved to action. we like to have fun. does the most appalling thing about being in libertarian. you have fun while doing what you are doing. we thought of as a good way to

mix things up here and. >> they must romanticize a path that has a contemporary moment. explain. >> when you think about it now, the contemporary writer conservatives always look back to ronald reagan and how things are better than. things have just been down hill. the democrats are all talking about how of the only get back to the great society days. do you remember how good the was under lyndon b. johnson? they imagine is before the fall when things happened. when you get back in much, i used to write a lot of about the cultural decline of america.

bill bennett has kind of gone missing. he talked about how great the '50s were. if you go back and read accounts, it was rebel without a cause. it was commies everywhere. it was growing up upsurge by paul goodman. it was a horrifying decade that was filled with a juvenile delinquents and slutty girls you are giving it up all over the place. the way politicians work is by motivating people with fear. they say we need to return to that golden age. that golden age. >> another thing about politicians, democrats or republicans stuffings or potatoes, stones or beatles, american politics is do all ballistic -- is duop-alistic.

>> what is that? >> we split things. we make a huge amount of hay out of the grandiose elaborations of differences. the republicans and democrats, who among us if you pull the names off, obama is essentially governing as george bush and his third term. he is followed all of the bailout economics. he has increased the health care spending. he has kept us in two wars and added a third to the mix. in the end, look at paul ryan. he is the darling on the

republican side. his budget plan would have been spending about $4.70 trending -- $4.70 trillion. the difference of that is minimal in the end. that is compared to the vast difference of other people. we are just splitting hairs. we feel the need to vilify the other side. >> of all the videos you have done, which was on the most reaction? >> are best viewed video is one where a videographer caught an off-duty policeman pulling a gun at a snowball fight in motion, d.c. that went all over the place. then we have done other things.

they did attack ads. we took a couple of clips of people complaining about how the 2008 election look like it would be the mustard and about pimtha. they are using contemporary accounts. >> virginia used to be a lot on this network. >> she hired me. >> here is a video that drew carey narrates. regional postrel gave one of her kidneys. this about that whole episode. >> there is one in which cannot try. stay with me. pang people to donate their kidneys. it sounds really a key.

they are your kidneys. it just helps people in need. if you want to sell or, why not? >> we want to repeal the federal law that makes it a crime to sell organs. >> they say they do not care about each other. >> it is a matter pang of people. -- paying of people. donors are the only ones who are not compensated. >> the surgeons are paid. the people who clean the floors and the hospitals are paid. everybody is paid and not the donors. >> would people be less likely to help people of money were involved? >> this undermines this.

>> we respect their service. we appreciate their heroism. we also pay for it this. >> it is likely that people's whose life has gone poorly and they are in trouble. >> what about the use it to pay off debt? >> maybe child support? >> what is wrong with that? why should we say that poor people are not allowed to take advantage of being kenny donors? >> here is the doctor? how did to get him to do that? how did to get him to do that? >> he was from the ucla medical center. it is the establishment position. it is illegal to trade in tissues and organs but not it.lace appea

>> what is the reasoning? >> it was an early convention. it is an agreement that it would mean human life -- demeane human life. >> it is an interesting question. a lot of people find this repulsive. it beats being hooked up to a dialysis machine several days a week and not be able to do something. that is a video that got a huge response. delays ait lays out a differentf thinking. the only country in the world with a flourishing market n of all places. >> their stories about the brothers' giving a lot of money

to republicans. -- there are stories about the koch brothers getting a lot of money to republicans. >> hit on the board of trustees. i do not even know how much she gives us. hi sam i am in trouble from one way or another. he has been on here for a long time. he ran for vice president in 1980. he ran to the left of both the democrats and republicans. his calling to the end of the fbi and the cia. i met charles koxh briefly -- koch briefly as well. the one claim is that they are hiding the ball.

hiding the ball. >> went to make the ship from been the editor to running reason.tv? >> she moved on to write books full-time. she was writing columns. editor of the magazine in 2000. in may 2007, i became editor in chief of reason tv. >> why did you do it? >> part of this was because i'm

working at the magazine for a long time. we knew they had written a book about john mccain and 2008. we knew he was in play. he would be awesome to edit it. he would be awesome to edit it. we needed someone to head it up. i said lemming take a shot at it. i have a strong interest in that. >> should we assume that jack and your sons? >> they are. my son is actually john caird recall him jack. they are 17 and 10. >> are you married? >> i am divorced. we were both fans of the beatniks. we named our kids after the cast

of these. >> what is about living in washington? >> i am in d.c. and a regular basis. my kids are there. i and there with them every other week. >> wire they there? >> -- why are they there? but my ex-wife as a professor. let's use that in 2003, i do not believe in god. -- use and in 2003, i do not believe in god. >> i'm a huge fan of religion as an offering for good. pa-efine myself as an ac theist.

i do not have a strong calling to fade. >> when did that start? sometimes when i was in my late grammar school years. i could blame it on st. mary's parochial school. >> they would be glad to hear that. about things video better abandon this country. >> welcome to the nation. it is for the government- nonbusiness. this is all but banned somewhere pare. this makes food like this taste better. say you do not want to stop serving chance that, they will find me.

-- trans fact, they will find you. everything the government does is backed up by guns and force. in dallas, these veterans got arrested for paying low stake poker. it is enough to make you-and play poker on line. that is banned, too. chicago recently repealed the " raw -- foi fggra ban. nothing is too silly to be banned. guess what happens if you sell bacon wrapped hot dog? >> you get thrown in jail. like she was thrown in jail for 45 days for that crime.

this is been around for nearly 50 years. 50 years. >> do you always know how mean people are looking at it? >> home we have this. a video will get anywhere from a couple of interviews to something pretty awful. we have some that have hit 400,000. in your book, you use a number of people to make your points. >> knicks over exemplifies the abilities create this. it is a whole new area of expertise. >> where do you start? >> it was kpmg.

he became a baseball player. >> bill james? >> he created apparel the sabermetrics. it is a whole new way of talking about this. it is regrettable and. >> one of your favorite people is robert. >> he has the hubris up thinking that you know it all. that is the enemy everywhere. >> what does this mean that you can do your own videos, put them on you ttube? what does it mean on a long-term

basis to people? >> i was likely -- lucky enough to grab a new world that is better than my parents and my child it. my kids look for to something i cannot imagine now. within the next 20 years, the future will be much better assuming that we get the parts of the world that politics controlled squeeze down to where they should be. we are looking at a world that will be fantastic. >> is there any way for you to wrap up in a nutshell what you think the politicians? >> i try not to think of them. what we talked about is voters on single issues. they are tightly knit. they are like that thing on a board.ji

we are starting to see that. there is an anti-war movement, marijuana legalization. >> the first book? >> yes. >> anything special about writing a book that you like to leave us with? >> a lot of the buck for me, - book for me, she is an economist that help stop on a levels. it was great to bounce ideas off of matt welch. it is always great to have a partner in crime. >> to confine him at reason.tv -- you can find him at reason.tv.

it is called "the declaration of independents: how libertarian politics can fix what's wrong with america." >> thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] cable satellite corp. 2011] >> free dvd, call this number. for a free transcript or to give us your comments about this program, a visit us at q-and- a.org. >> tonight on c-span, the prime minister's questions with david cameron. after that, republican presidential candidate jon huntsman's remarks.

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republicans in the senate that could the house speaker remark, they are raising taxes is a bad idea. he did you continue to press for his plan. he wanted a deal that includes entitlement reforms and tax increases. there indicating that there could be more talks tomorrow. there is a press conference with president obama and the white house briefing room tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. eastern right here on c-span. right here on c-span.